{"id":14415,"date":"2026-09-04T15:17:29","date_gmt":"2026-09-04T13:17:29","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.knap.hr\/centar\/?p=14415"},"modified":"2026-09-15T09:58:48","modified_gmt":"2026-09-15T07:58:48","slug":"prijateljska-vatricatomislav-pletenac-robert-kanesicbad-blue-boys-i-nogometni-klub-dinamo","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.knap.hr\/centar\/prijateljska-vatricatomislav-pletenac-robert-kanesicbad-blue-boys-i-nogometni-klub-dinamo\/","title":{"rendered":"PRIJATELJSKA VATRICA
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Prva epizoda novog podcasta “Prijateljska vatrica”, koji vodi antropolog dr. sc. Tomislav Pletenac, otvara temu navija\u010dke kulture razgovorom s Robertom Kane\u0161i\u0107em Kanetom.<\/p>\n

“Vatricom” \u017eelimo provjeriti \u0161to zna\u010di pripadati jednom klubu i jednoj tribini? Kako se postaje navija\u010dem i \u0161to se kroz desetlje\u0107a mijenja u odnosu navija\u010da prema klubu? Gdje zavr\u0161ava nogomet, a po\u010dinju grad, politika, generacija i identitet? I \u0161to o dru\u0161tvu mo\u017eemo saznati kada ga, umjesto iz institucionalne perspektive, promatramo s tribine?<\/p>\n

Razgovor s Kanetom polazi od nogometnog kluba Dinamo i zagreba\u010dkog navija\u010dkog iskustva, \u010dime otvaramo pitanje \u0161to zapravo prou\u010davamo kada prou\u010davamo navija\u010de? Navija\u010dka kultura nije samo pri\u010da o nasilju, incidentima i sukobima, premda se upravo kroz te slike naj\u010de\u0161\u0107e pojavljuje u javnosti. Tribina je istodobno i prostor pripadanja, grada, rituala, prijateljstva i suparni\u0161tva. Ona je mjesto na kojem se grade kolektivni identiteti, na kojem se prenose pri\u010de i pravila, pregovara odnos prema klubu, ali i politici i institucijama.<\/p>\n

Va\u017ena polazi\u0161na to\u010dka za razumijevanje hrvatskog navija\u0161tva knjiga je Dra\u017eena Lali\u0107a, “Torcida: pogled iznutra”, temeljna studija splitske navija\u010dke skupine i dru\u0161tvenog konteksta u kojem navija\u010dka kultura nastaje i razvija se. Lali\u0107ev pogled “iznutra” va\u017ean je upravo zato \u0161to navija\u010de ne promatra samo kao dru\u0161tveni problem, nego kao zajednicu sa svojim pravilima, hijerarhijama, vrijednostima, ritualima i unutarnjom logikom.<\/p>\n

Odnos dviju velikih hrvatskih navija\u010dkih skupina dodatno otvaraju Benjamin Perasovi\u0107 i Marko Mustapi\u0107 u tekstu “Torcida and Bad Blue Boys: From Hatred to Cooperation and Back”. Povijest odnosa Torcide i Bad Blue Boysa, kako dokazuju autori, nije jednostavna povijest neprijateljstva. Uz duboko suparni\u0161tvo, postoje trenuci pribli\u017eavanja i zajedni\u010dkog djelovanja, osobito kada se otvore pitanja modernog nogometa, upravljanja klubovima i polo\u017eaja samih navija\u010da. Upravo ti obrati pokazuju koliko su navija\u010dki identiteti \u010dvrsti, ali istodobno politi\u010dki i dru\u0161tveno dinami\u010dni.<\/p>\n

Tako\u0111er, za \u0161iru sliku nogometa kao dru\u0161tvenog fenomena tu je Richard Giulianotti i “Football: A Sociology of the Global Game”. Nogomet se u toj perspektivi vi\u0161e ne mo\u017ee svesti na devedeset minuta utakmice. On postaje mjesto na kojem se prelamaju klasa, lokalni i nacionalni identitet, tr\u017ei\u0161te, mediji, globalizacija i politika. Klub nije samo sportska organizacija, nego simbol oko kojeg ljudi proizvode osje\u0107aj zajedni\u010dke povijesti i pripadnosti.<\/p>\n

Stereotipnu pak sliku navija\u010da posebno dobro razgra\u0111uje Geoff Pearson u knjizi “An Ethnography of English Football Fans: Cans, Cops and Carnivals”. Etnografski pogled pokazuje \u010ditav svijet koji nestaje kada navija\u0161tvo promatramo isklju\u010divo kroz huliganizam: putovanja na utakmice, pjesme, humor, alkohol, prijateljstva, kolektivne rituale i specifi\u010dan odnos navija\u010da s policijom i drugim institucijama. Utakmica, zaklju\u010duje autor, po\u010dinje mnogo prije prvog su\u010deva zvi\u017eduka i zavr\u0161ava mnogo poslije posljednjeg.<\/p>\n

Koliko nogometni klub mo\u017ee postati nositelj identiteta jedne zajednice pokazuje Mariann V\u00e1czi u knjizi “Soccer, Culture and Society in Spain: An Ethnography of Basque Fandom”. Kroz baskijsko navija\u0161tvo V\u00e1czi povezuje nogomet s lokalnim identitetom, jezikom, nacionalizmom i zajednicom. Stadion se pojavljuje kao prostor u kojem se dru\u0161tvene i politi\u010dke pripadnosti ne samo reprezentiraju nego i neprestano proizvode.<\/p>\n

Suvremenu sliku ultras kulture donosi i dokumentarni film “Ultras” \u0161vedske redateljice Ragnhild Ekner iz 2025. godine. Kroz globalni pogled na ultras scenu film se bavi koreografijama, emocijama, odano\u0161\u0107u i zna\u010denjem tribine za ljude kojima navijanje nije povremena razonoda nego va\u017ean dio osobnog i kolektivnog identiteta.<\/p>\n

Od Lali\u0107eve Torcide i odnosa Torcide i Bad Blue Boysa, preko engleskih i baskijskih tribina, do suvremene globalne ultras kulture, ista se pitanja vra\u0107aju u razli\u010ditim oblicima: za\u0161to ljudi toliko sna\u017eno pripadaju klubu? \u0160to pronalaze na tribini \u0161to ne pronalaze drugdje? Kako se proizvode “mi” i “oni”? I \u0161to se doga\u0111a kada nogomet prestane biti samo igra?<\/p>\n

Razgovor vodi: Tomislav Pletenac
\nAutorica Programa vizualne kulture: Ana Mu\u0161\u0107et
\nProdukcija: Qolektiv
\nOblikovanje: Maja Kolar, Josipa Tadi\u0107<\/p>\n

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